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Is this a style of riding that people actually pay money to be taught to execute properly? And by “properly” clearly I mean “Oh good Gawd WTFB was that?!”
I mean, don’t get me wrong, it certainly appears to be working for her. She did post a clear round so it can’t be all bad. Maybe I’m the only one who made an ass out of myself and assumed (ha ha ha) the madly flapping limbs would spook the horse – or at the very least, distract it from the job at hand. I know I was distracted…
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Yes, it’s a legitimate style, it even has a name (which escapes me right now). I believe the point is that it gives the horse’s back maximum freedom to bascule.
I will note, however, that when Lewis was actively competing, one of her (male) compatriots, for a costume class at the big winter show, put on a pair of fake blonde pigtails and did a round imitating her. She was always mildly mocked when she was active…but she did get some amazing results from that horse.
God that horse is a SAINT! I remember if I let my leg slip back and accidentally spurred my hunter over a jump he’d dump me on the other side!
shes not spurring him for hit him with her legs at all.
hitting*
I guess you’d have to say, it works for her. Would be interesting to know if she rides ALL her horses that way, or just that one, and if so, there must be a reason. It might be weird, but apparently, she’s laughing all the way to the bank, because it works for that horse. It happens so quickly, it’s hard to see what she is actually doing, but she’s a good enough rider that she can throw her legs back, yet bring them back into normal riding position quicker than you eye can see it. To me, weird as it looks, she’s good at it.
I would just hate to see what happens if she got on a dirty stopper…
All of her horses.
Her younger sister rode the exact same way.
I am dumbfounded. Is she jumping out of the saddle before the horse jumps? Is she using his leap to provide lift? How does she keep her feet in the stirrups? I have to admit her ability to land exactly in the saddle at the end of the jump illustrates some serious athletic ability, but the potential for disaster if anything goes wrong while she is up in the air blows my mind.
If you look at her feet, she wont have any problem keeping them in the stirrups, they are shoved right through to the arch of her foot. My worry is what will happen if she ever loses her balance and falls off… BROKEN leg I suspect. What ever happened to riding with the ball of your foot in the stirrup.
The stirrups are either glued to her feet or have the magnetic inserts — I have no idea how else they’d stay with her!
I’m surprised over posting to the canter! Didn’t know that was really possible . See it at the beginning. Must be a hot horse with an iron mouth…I did notice that only her legs flew back, the rest of her stayed pretty much in place (for jumping over a big jump on a hot horse).
Posting to the canter is a popular technique used to slow down and rate your horse. Personally, I’ve only ever seen it while riding cross country or fox hunting, never in a jumper show.
You haven’t been to many hunter shows — just about everyone posts to the canter and it drives me insane.
Haven’t shown hunters in years, and from the sound of it, I’m glad! Posting to the canter was always taught to me for use OUTSIDE of the arena, never in.
No problem with this!
1. Horse looks happy.
2. No harsh equipment.
3. No whipping, spurring, conflicting cues.
4. Horse seems well prepared and happy to do its job.
5. She gave the horse a nice pat when she got off.
WISH ALL COMPETITIVE RIDERS WERE LIKE HER!!
The horse looks happy? You must be on drugs lady. Let me point out a couple of things for you to look at once you put on your [fuzzy bunny] glasses.
1. The horse is laying his ears back pretty much all of the time
2. The horse is swishing his tail which in horse terms means “If only this bitch didn’t have this mind altering piece of metal in my mouth I would buck her off and stomp her until she was DEAD.
Abby, I am with you! The horse looks brain fried and VERY unhappy. That horse is jumping well DESPITE her, not BECAUSE of her. She has a fricken death grip on his face between jumps too.
eh…
Somewhere there’s a video where a rein snapped and the horse went all hell-bent for leather. From what I can see, if the horse listens to her, it jumps brilliantly, but if either she’s off in her rhythm or distance or the horse ignores her they have rails. At least she never has to worry about having enough impulsion to jump, just the forward momentum and whether she has too much or not enough.
I also counted tail swishes: none. The horse DOES flick it’s tail upwards every time he lifts his hind end (fence or not), but no circular wringing motions.
edit: found the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3doU4evTxiE
Oh jesus christ, no wonder the rein snapped. Yank. yank. Yank. Yank. YANK. Oh frick!
I’m afraid I have to disagree, yeah, the horse does appear to move its tail a bit much its more of a swish when it lifts its end over the jumps but its not an angry thrashing tail like you see on some horses. My own pony lifts her tail in a similar way when jumping, even when shes jumping creeks in the paddock! And yes, the ears are back but not pinned, I’d say they are back because they are listening to the rider. I do agree with the hands thing. I’m guessing prehaps this horse has quite a hard mouth, prehaps thats something the rider could work on.
Ooooh.. Edit, I watched it again and it did give the tail a bit of a wring over teh last fence. Prehaps a bad jump? Definatly not doing it teh whole time tho.
It’s not a deliberate jumping method…
“It’s been described as flamboyant,” Annette laughs during a break at one of her clinics at Norton Heath in Essex. “I jump like I do because I was never taught how to ride. At eight or nine years old I was really tall and when I used to jump my 12.2hh ponies my legs got in the way so I had to lift them up to stop me from hitting fences with my feet. I still ride like that. People will tell you that even though my riding style is unorthodox, I never get in my horses’ way. I’m never a hindrance to them. I’ve come in for terrible criticism for the way I ride but my record shows you can be unorthodox and still be good, and if I had a rider come to me for coaching with a similar style, so long as they were effective, I wouldn’t try to change them.”
- http://www.eqlife.co.uk/2012/essex-show-jumping-coach-annette-lewis-talks-to-eq-life/
You know, I can totally understand the figuring out how to ride on your own thing. I did it, I took a year or two of lessons but they were pretty worthless. I wasn’t very good until I got my gelding who was one you either needed to learn to ride or you were hitting the ground. I’ve come a long way since then and I’m sure there are tons of things that aren’t right that have been working fine for me and the horses. However, I am not competing or jumping big ass fences. If I was going to show, I’d get my butt into some real lessons and fix my quirks. I wouldn’t necessarily conform to something I thought was less beneficial to the horse but something like this……. How that does not end badly……. There is just no way that can feel good on the horses mouth or sides. I don’t care if she’s winning or not, there’s just no way this method is better for the horse. Ugh.
I used to have to do that when I did a fun jumping class on my pony with my legs hanging below the belly
Ack! Definitely been there, done that “jumping style” a few times but it was NOT intentional. Kind of looks like she slams herself onto the horse’s back after the jumps.
Looks like an old video though, with the timestamp and the fact that she’s wearing a hunt cap rather than a helmet. Is it?
I’ve been seeing a lot of canter posting at shows this year. Not a fan.
When done correctly (not hanging on the horse’s mouth) I liked canter posting – I found it helped regulate the stride before starting a jumping round.
Agreed. It’s a valid technique with lots of benefits. It can really help you feel the rythem of your horse’s canter.
But for me it’s something I do at home when schooling, not in the show ring.
If her stirrup leather ever broke she would be in a world of hurt. Yeow!
OMG canter posting…. or how ’bout you just learn to ride that big ‘ole warmblood.
She did well in spite of her riding style, not because of her riding style. I am glad she admits to lack of training. Her “style” over the jumps is unnecessarily dangerous. I can’t believe she would actually considering advocating this to someone she coached. She is certainly athletic, but lucky as well. I hope her students are lucky too.
I heard she “invented” this style because she kept knocking poles over early in her jumping career. And by knocking poles over I’m not talking about the horse, I’m talking about her feet…
I think canter posting was stolen from polo. People have done it on the polo field for zillions of years. I always thought the purpose was just to keep yourself in that mindset of not sitting there like a sack of potatoes – because you can’t hit the ball sitting there like a sack of potatoes. You always two-point, for lack of a better term, to hit.
plain and simply put.. i was having a horrid day until i watched this video… it is a very intersting style… and my assumption is that her knees are eventually going to go out… and if her leathers break … well shit im going to laugh even more lol. Her horse seems to be very hot and distracted… he or she could be new… my opinion is she is out of control either way lol. i could be wrong but cheerleading and equestrian over fences doesnt really mix very safely lol
I know absolutely nothing about jumping. However, I laughed hysterically at the video. She reminded me of a tree frog. Seems to work for her though. I wonder what that horse tells his buddies in the stable yard? Here comes Miss Merrylegs to go another round of jumping, lol.
This video is not the first one I’ve seen.I could have sworn Fugly did a post on this guy (can’t remember his name) because he rode similar to this but thumped hard on the horses back when he landed. She’s getting the “job” done but it’s horrible looking. And canter posting! WTF I’m sorry but that just doesn’t isn’t right, it might have it’s purpose but i was never taught it (thank god)
Bwah ha ha ha!!! Oh god….give me a second…..snicker, hic, snort….oh, screw it. BWAH HA HA HA HA HAHA!!!
YES! There is someone currently on the world jumping circuit that does this but even more MESSY! Like seriously collapses on the horses neck and fumbles his reins at least 2 jumps in a course. Whenever we sit down to watch the World Tour we’re always hysterically excited when he comes on!
I don’t care if it’s a ‘technique’, it’s dangerous! Just because a professional suddenly calls it a new thing ha too funny! I give her props though, the acrobatically skill involved!
That is ugly riding to watch.
Please, show us what YOUR jump videos look like. And make sure the fences are just as high as these were. We’re all waiting. And we’re expecting that your form will be perfect, you won’t have any rails down, and you’ll get a course like this done in under 40 seconds.
The point is not that ANY of us are a better jumper than the person in the video (even though I think I can safely say after 17 years of hunter jumper lessons, shows, clinics, etc that my legs do not EVER do anything remotely like that) but that the person in the video is riding at the highest level of show jumping and claims to be a professional. Holy hell!
Even taking out the over-fences stuff, I didn’t care for her style between the fences. She rode heavily with her hands and was VERY VERY stiff and awkward when she wasn’t canter posting. I would like to refer back to the equitation post on Fugly a few days ago where I discussed that equitation principles SERVE A PURPOSE. You don’t ride with your heels down, your fingers closed on the reins, and–ahem–your legs under you–purely because it looks good. All those things help you either steer, balance, or keep from getting your ass dragged when you fall off.
I KNOW show jumpers don’t have to have perfect eq and certainly over large fences its going to be harder to accomplish. But there is no excuse for that level of leg flailing. I can’t think off hand but there is an American male show jumper who has a similar but far less dramatic tendancy of letting his leg position slip WAAYYY back over fences. I’m Canadian so I watch the Canadian broadcasts of show jumping, and whenever he is riding at Spruce Meadows the announcer always makes a point of saying “well, for any kids learning to ride who are watching, here is what you are NOT supposed to do over fences with your legs!” She always goes on to say that he gets the job done and is quite successful, but I am always happy that she points it out.
You don’t see any international show jumpers flailing away to this extent today (at least not any of my favourites) so your “well, you can’t do any better!” argument doesn’t really make sense in context (since we are talking about professionals).
Also, give your horse its head! A horse needs its neck to balance, holding it right next to yours is not going to accomplish anything.
Just have to share this photo of the pair of them… http://www.showjumpingnostalgia.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Annette-Lewis-Tutein-Falsterbo-Horse-Show-1988.jpg
As a hunter rider, I am ready to gouge my eyes out. AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
I watch the ride between the fences and just cringe. Look at the muscling on the underside of that horses neck. What keeps her in the tack is her knees jamed into his shoulder blades and her hands. A horse will muscle up according to the way they are ridden. Form = Function : . Function = Form . Want to see horses that you just Know are going to be soft and responsive between the fences? Take a look at the German Team horses. Their flat work is flawless.